Tevye said, " A bird may love a fish, but where would they live"? I can't believe Hot Rabbi would give up his pulpit. Joanne is afraid of the unknown. Hot Rabbi needs to sit down with her and tell her what converting to Judaism really means. Explain the classes, the mikvah, the traditions they will practice together. Many of the Jewish women are far too stereotyped. Even the usually excellent Tovah Feldshuh was too over-the-top. I did love her house and clothing though. Elegant and beautiful.
I disliked a lot of things about this show. I’m 6 episodes in so there’s hope?! The character of Esther and the Jewish moms perpetuate a very negative stereotype of Jewish women. I wish it was 5 years ago because perhaps I’d be able to laugh more but now it feels careless. Not all Jewish women are “headstrong bitches” per the Hey Alma discussion and this makes it feel like Jewish women are all like this and out to get the non Jewish blonde in the room. So one dimensional
I thought the stereotyping of Jewish woman was down right antisemitic. As usual we see the Ashkenormative portrayal of Jews in the media. There was one Sephardic Jew who showed up for two seconds as a waiter. Where were the Jews of color?
The scene in the sex toy store felt like it was written with Christian guilt in mind. Would have been a great teaching moment that Jews embrace sex and would love to see the hot rabbi reference any of the many Talmudic passages on how great sex is.
My problem is that they over act Jewish instead of just thinking Jewish, which maybe harder to express without bubbles on the screen. The obvious example is that we have a love story and we need to express our opinions on how it makes Jews look. We worry about assimilation and how we look to the general population, very Jewish. I think a better story was Charlotte and Harry on Sex in the City, they didn’t need to bring their mishpoacha into the conversation.
The show is a fairy tale. Hoping there is a second season to answer my quandery and that of my husband's. (we have been married nearly 52 years , both Jewish so I think we are pretty in tune with love) so do you all really think Noah is going to give up being the chief rabbi for love. I am not sure. If I was the screenplay writer I would have Kristin Bell ask Noah down the track after a huge marital argument " are you sorry and are holding it against me that you gave up your dream for me. That;s the first issue. Now here in Melbourne it is very demeaning to call a non Jewish girl a shiksa. I was not that comfortable with that. Yes there are Jewish mothers like Noah's in the orthodox but for those of us more liberal she is not a representative. Also the show keeps pushing the point the beautiful blonde shiksa as though jewish girls are not so pretty but may I remind you about Gadot and all the other very beautiful Jewish actresses and celebrities and those Israeli girls are something-it gives many ignorant non jews a wrong impression. The show is ok but there are many cliches. Still we did enjoy it for what it is.
For the most part enjoyable except the opening scene which depicts the Jews in temple unfavorably, not funny. They are unattractive and very very pushy. Even the marvelous Tovah Feldshuh is overly caricatured with little redeeming quality. The only Jewish woman who is respectable is the woman Rabbi. The men are typical nerdy caricatures and very unattractive, except for the Rabbi of course.. I also would have liked the gentile father to be less overtly gay seeming( like Grace and Frankie). Hard to imagine no one knew he was gay until he came out. But so far this show is the best of most of the “Jewish”themed shows out there like the awful Hanukah Hallmark shows which have very little worthwhile Yiddishkeit. We certainly could use some decent representation in media but it seems too much to hope for
I’m enjoying it, but the way Rebecca was portrayed as someone who takes things for granted and can’t be trusted, I don’t blame Noah for bailing. (Breaking her wrist to get attention was over the top.) Also, how could Noah not know immediately that the woman with the trustee was not the trustee’s wife?
hello, not jewish myself and only started watching the show, but i wanted to mention something regarding interfaith relationships that was mentioned in the convo. i used to work at a jewish federation in a city with a large and diverse jewish population, which had plenty of events for the community and such. at some point, i joined this committee for work composed of multiple jewish community groups with different goals, with the discussion being interfaith couples, marriage, families. for my organization, we took the approach of accepting the couples as they were, while giving them exposure to jewish learning. however, much of the conversations revolved around a strong anxiety regarding interfaith marriages. like - this topic took center stage in most discussions. not everyone felt that anxiety, but some orgs directly mentioned wanting the the jewish side to be the one passed on to children rather than the other partner's beliefs. the rabbi leading the discussion mentioned that, to some groups, interfaith marriages meant the end of jews - it was that tense. all that to say: regarding interfaith unions ... it definitely depends on your community/family as to whether that's still taboo or not, but it's for sure an IRL thing in some places.
I've never binge-watched a show before this one, and I was obsessed. Had to watch the whole thing, and so disappointed when it ended. I wanted more, immediately. Needless to say, I loved Noah and Joanne. I've never seen either of them before (I rarely watch TV), and now I'm looking for all of their shows. (To be honest, mostly looking for Adam Brody's work. Can't get enough of him!) And, I really disliked the portrayal of Jewish women - all the negative stereotypes. How about showing us as the strong, intelligent, and caring women that we are??? Were there any Jewish women on the writing team? There was a Jewish man who consulted on the project, and clearly, he didn't stop the negativity about Jewish women. Erin Foster probably experienced women who fit this mold. I hope they improve in this arena in Season 2 (Yay for Season 2!)
PS I've seen Adam Brody and Kristin Bell on talk shows this week, and learned that Kristin and Adam's parents were from Detroit. As a Detroit export, I'm thrilled about their Detroit roots. Now I need to know who in the Detroit Jewish community knows Adam's parents. We all shopped at Brody's, a children's clothing store, and I'm wondering if the store owners were part of his family. So many questions!
The Jewish women in this were portrayed poorly and undesirable to the Jewish men in this. They never had a chance versus the cute, perky, blond, blue eyed "Shiksa" Kristin Bell character. She was lovable they were not in all ways. Judaism was the big loser also. Here was a nice handsome Jewish Rabbi who wanted to stay a Rabbi but gave it all up because his Christian girlfriend would not convert. So, lets jump ahead somewhat in 5 years and imagine Noah's life married to Joanne. No longer a Rabbi because no synagogue would hire him as an intermarried man. It's December and in his and Joanne's house is a large Christmas Tree all decorated with ornaments and presents under it with a Jewish Star on top. Two daughters who know the preparation for Christmas and Easter very well enjoying the Christian Holiday. Of course, the children are not Jewish and when older they would most likely marry Christians and would raise children as Christians! Noah's line of ancestors are now not Jewish and all this from a man who was one step away from being head Rabbi. One other possibility shown is that Noah's Brother has fallen in love with Joannes sister divorcing his Jewish wife and also having Christian children. Judaism is the big loser in this in that it always comes in second to Christian romances. Well with the intermarriage rate in the US today maybe this is reality from make believe!
Enjoyed it immensely!!! Let’s remember It’s not a documentary.Personally I don’t think it depicted Jewish characters in a very negative way, maybe a little exaggerated, but certainly not objectionable. Let’s remember this is TV. It is escapism for sure. And who doesn’t love a good love story. My guess is the next season will be about Joanne deciding to convert, the process and all the tales that come with that. I think it will actually be very very humorous because let’s face it she might convert but she’s going to bring along her non-Jewish life experiences and they will always offer a bit of contrast and comedy if well written.
Tevye said, " A bird may love a fish, but where would they live"? I can't believe Hot Rabbi would give up his pulpit. Joanne is afraid of the unknown. Hot Rabbi needs to sit down with her and tell her what converting to Judaism really means. Explain the classes, the mikvah, the traditions they will practice together. Many of the Jewish women are far too stereotyped. Even the usually excellent Tovah Feldshuh was too over-the-top. I did love her house and clothing though. Elegant and beautiful.
He was clear that he would not give up his pulpit, so he asked Joanne to convert. We're left hanging, not knowing what Joanne will do.
I disliked a lot of things about this show. I’m 6 episodes in so there’s hope?! The character of Esther and the Jewish moms perpetuate a very negative stereotype of Jewish women. I wish it was 5 years ago because perhaps I’d be able to laugh more but now it feels careless. Not all Jewish women are “headstrong bitches” per the Hey Alma discussion and this makes it feel like Jewish women are all like this and out to get the non Jewish blonde in the room. So one dimensional
I thought the stereotyping of Jewish woman was down right antisemitic. As usual we see the Ashkenormative portrayal of Jews in the media. There was one Sephardic Jew who showed up for two seconds as a waiter. Where were the Jews of color?
The scene in the sex toy store felt like it was written with Christian guilt in mind. Would have been a great teaching moment that Jews embrace sex and would love to see the hot rabbi reference any of the many Talmudic passages on how great sex is.
My problem is that they over act Jewish instead of just thinking Jewish, which maybe harder to express without bubbles on the screen. The obvious example is that we have a love story and we need to express our opinions on how it makes Jews look. We worry about assimilation and how we look to the general population, very Jewish. I think a better story was Charlotte and Harry on Sex in the City, they didn’t need to bring their mishpoacha into the conversation.
The show is a fairy tale. Hoping there is a second season to answer my quandery and that of my husband's. (we have been married nearly 52 years , both Jewish so I think we are pretty in tune with love) so do you all really think Noah is going to give up being the chief rabbi for love. I am not sure. If I was the screenplay writer I would have Kristin Bell ask Noah down the track after a huge marital argument " are you sorry and are holding it against me that you gave up your dream for me. That;s the first issue. Now here in Melbourne it is very demeaning to call a non Jewish girl a shiksa. I was not that comfortable with that. Yes there are Jewish mothers like Noah's in the orthodox but for those of us more liberal she is not a representative. Also the show keeps pushing the point the beautiful blonde shiksa as though jewish girls are not so pretty but may I remind you about Gadot and all the other very beautiful Jewish actresses and celebrities and those Israeli girls are something-it gives many ignorant non jews a wrong impression. The show is ok but there are many cliches. Still we did enjoy it for what it is.
I liked it. I can’t figure out why, but I binged it . Have to admit the brother and his sister in law were hilarious
For the most part enjoyable except the opening scene which depicts the Jews in temple unfavorably, not funny. They are unattractive and very very pushy. Even the marvelous Tovah Feldshuh is overly caricatured with little redeeming quality. The only Jewish woman who is respectable is the woman Rabbi. The men are typical nerdy caricatures and very unattractive, except for the Rabbi of course.. I also would have liked the gentile father to be less overtly gay seeming( like Grace and Frankie). Hard to imagine no one knew he was gay until he came out. But so far this show is the best of most of the “Jewish”themed shows out there like the awful Hanukah Hallmark shows which have very little worthwhile Yiddishkeit. We certainly could use some decent representation in media but it seems too much to hope for
Also as I will talk about in my write up cause I can resist - the age of these characters and the way they act is wildly different
I’m enjoying it, but the way Rebecca was portrayed as someone who takes things for granted and can’t be trusted, I don’t blame Noah for bailing. (Breaking her wrist to get attention was over the top.) Also, how could Noah not know immediately that the woman with the trustee was not the trustee’s wife?
hello, not jewish myself and only started watching the show, but i wanted to mention something regarding interfaith relationships that was mentioned in the convo. i used to work at a jewish federation in a city with a large and diverse jewish population, which had plenty of events for the community and such. at some point, i joined this committee for work composed of multiple jewish community groups with different goals, with the discussion being interfaith couples, marriage, families. for my organization, we took the approach of accepting the couples as they were, while giving them exposure to jewish learning. however, much of the conversations revolved around a strong anxiety regarding interfaith marriages. like - this topic took center stage in most discussions. not everyone felt that anxiety, but some orgs directly mentioned wanting the the jewish side to be the one passed on to children rather than the other partner's beliefs. the rabbi leading the discussion mentioned that, to some groups, interfaith marriages meant the end of jews - it was that tense. all that to say: regarding interfaith unions ... it definitely depends on your community/family as to whether that's still taboo or not, but it's for sure an IRL thing in some places.
I've never binge-watched a show before this one, and I was obsessed. Had to watch the whole thing, and so disappointed when it ended. I wanted more, immediately. Needless to say, I loved Noah and Joanne. I've never seen either of them before (I rarely watch TV), and now I'm looking for all of their shows. (To be honest, mostly looking for Adam Brody's work. Can't get enough of him!) And, I really disliked the portrayal of Jewish women - all the negative stereotypes. How about showing us as the strong, intelligent, and caring women that we are??? Were there any Jewish women on the writing team? There was a Jewish man who consulted on the project, and clearly, he didn't stop the negativity about Jewish women. Erin Foster probably experienced women who fit this mold. I hope they improve in this arena in Season 2 (Yay for Season 2!)
PS I've seen Adam Brody and Kristin Bell on talk shows this week, and learned that Kristin and Adam's parents were from Detroit. As a Detroit export, I'm thrilled about their Detroit roots. Now I need to know who in the Detroit Jewish community knows Adam's parents. We all shopped at Brody's, a children's clothing store, and I'm wondering if the store owners were part of his family. So many questions!
The Jewish women in this were portrayed poorly and undesirable to the Jewish men in this. They never had a chance versus the cute, perky, blond, blue eyed "Shiksa" Kristin Bell character. She was lovable they were not in all ways. Judaism was the big loser also. Here was a nice handsome Jewish Rabbi who wanted to stay a Rabbi but gave it all up because his Christian girlfriend would not convert. So, lets jump ahead somewhat in 5 years and imagine Noah's life married to Joanne. No longer a Rabbi because no synagogue would hire him as an intermarried man. It's December and in his and Joanne's house is a large Christmas Tree all decorated with ornaments and presents under it with a Jewish Star on top. Two daughters who know the preparation for Christmas and Easter very well enjoying the Christian Holiday. Of course, the children are not Jewish and when older they would most likely marry Christians and would raise children as Christians! Noah's line of ancestors are now not Jewish and all this from a man who was one step away from being head Rabbi. One other possibility shown is that Noah's Brother has fallen in love with Joannes sister divorcing his Jewish wife and also having Christian children. Judaism is the big loser in this in that it always comes in second to Christian romances. Well with the intermarriage rate in the US today maybe this is reality from make believe!
Enjoyed it immensely!!! Let’s remember It’s not a documentary.Personally I don’t think it depicted Jewish characters in a very negative way, maybe a little exaggerated, but certainly not objectionable. Let’s remember this is TV. It is escapism for sure. And who doesn’t love a good love story. My guess is the next season will be about Joanne deciding to convert, the process and all the tales that come with that. I think it will actually be very very humorous because let’s face it she might convert but she’s going to bring along her non-Jewish life experiences and they will always offer a bit of contrast and comedy if well written.
I loved it, it was down-to-earth and funny.
Hackneyed and stereotypical. And I'm not seeing much heat between the leads.
But my wife loves it.
LOOOOve THIS MOVIE!!